Topic: Humanist Activism, The “Atheist Bus Ad” Campaign, Supreme Court Decision, their significance to nonbelievers, Humanists and the HAO.

Speaker: Humanist Dave “B”,  Member of the Ottawa Civil Liberties Committee

Time: Friday, October 16 @ 7:30pm

Location: Jean Talon Building, Tunney’s Pasture, North on Holland Ave. past Scott St., Building No.# 170.

Greenpeace signs in Halifax and Ottawa warn of dangerously low cod levels in the atlantic.

I came across this interesting advertisement through a friend on facebook. Greenpeace is out to remind us that Atlantic cod levels are running so low that they are at risk of irreversible damage. Continued fishing might possibly wipe out the entire species. Not only is this problem with cod, but many other sealife species around the world.

The curious part of the advertisement is that Greenpeace has mimicked our atheist ad style to try and garner more attention.  What a great idea. They have purchased four weeks of advertising time on buses and a billboard in Halifax, and one billboard in Ottawa.

For more reading and information about the Atlantic cod crisis, please visit Greenpeace’s website here. To do your part of ensuring you are not eating endangered sea life, take a look at the seafood market redlist Greenpeace has produced.

Great job Kevin.

British Columbia transit officials were on the wrong side of the Charter when they refused to carry messages on the sides of their buses aimed at provincial voters, the country’s top court said today.

The Supreme Court of Canada struck down transit policies banning all political ads, saying they violate rights to free speech.

“Like a city street, a city bus is a public place where individuals can openly interact with each other and their surroundings,” wrote Justice Marie Deschamps in the 8-0 ruling.

All nine judges heard the case in March 2008 but Justice Michel Bastarache has since retired.

“I do not see any aspect of the location that suggests that expression within it would undermine the values underlying free expression,” Deschamps wrote. “On the contrary, the space allows for expression by a broad range of speakers to a large public audience.

“I therefore conclude that the side of a bus is a location where expressive activity is protected by … the Charter.”

The judgment was being watched by cities across Canada that have so far rejected atheist bus banners declaring: “There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.”

The ruling protecting political ads will be viewed as a boon to those hoping to buy bus space for their atheist message. (To continue reading, click here) – Toronto Star

This is great news for free speech but also great news for our atheist ad. Metro transit informed us months ago that they would revise their policy on advertising what some may deem ‘controversial’,  if the courts ruled in favour of the Canadian Federation of Students. We are hopeful that Metro Transit will make good on their stated intentions and reconsider our proposed advertisements with as little additional delay as possible.

More news to be posted as it becomes available, in the mean time you can sign up on our discussion board and start talking with other atheists at http://atheistdiscussion.com. Atheist Discussion began with the Canadian Atheist Bus Campaign and is now the home discussion board for both the Canadian and also Indiana Atheist Bus Campaign.

*UPDATE* - July 11, 2:30pm. It appears that Metro Transit will accept our ad according to TheChronicalHerold.ca

A Supreme Court of Canada decision on freedom of speech in bus advertising means Metro Transit will run atheist ads from a national organization.

[...] “Yes, when they apply, they can . . . purchase the ads.” [said Lori Patterson] (Full article, click here)

On Monday we will be applying. Stay tuned for more details.

Here are some photos of the HAO with one of the 24 OC Transpo buses our ad is on:

On a side note, paypal has suspended our donation account so please hang on to your money until we sort it out.

Atheist Bus in Spain:

This video below is from a British comedy called “Have I Got News For You”. The episode aired last fall.

The next is from a show called University Challenge:

More to come soon.

The Humanist Association of Ottawa has been working to bring ads to Ottawa buses saying: THERE’S PROBABLY NO GOD. NOW STOP WORRYING AND ENJOY YOUR LIFE.

We are part of an international movement which began in Britain last June. A woman named Ariane Sherine went to a website advertised on a London bus and read that non-Christians will“spend all eternity in torment in hell. Jesus spoke about this as a lake of fire which was prepared for the devil and all his angels.”

Disgusted, she decided to counter with an ad of her own. She teamed up with Richard Dawkins, author of The God Delusion, and the British Humanist Association, and set the goal of raising ￡5500 (about $10,000 Canadian) for their own counter-ads. Dawkins pledged to match all donations up to ￡5500. They settled on the slogan THERE’S PROBABLY NO GOD. NOW STOP WORRYING AND ENJOY YOUR LIFE. “Ours is a fun and light-hearted message,” said Sherine, “but it does have a serious point to it: that atheists want a secular country. We want a secular school (system) and a secular government.”

In spite of there being no plan or funding for soliciting donations, the money flooded in. The original fundraising target was met within twenty-four hours. Today the total raised in Britain is in excess of ￡140,000, which is being used to put bus ads in twenty cities across the nation.

The idea is spreading rapidly around the world. At the time of writing, groups of Freethinkers have placed ads in Canada, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, and the USA. Groups are working on ads in Germany, Australia, Finland, Switzerland, and Croatia.

Toronto, Calgary, and Montreal accepted and ran the atheist ads. Halifax’s Metro Transit initially rejected the PROBABLY NO GOD ads on the basis that they were offensive, though they said they would reconsider Humanist Canada’s YOU CAN BE GOOD WITHOUT GOD if they “toned down the message” (!)  Vancouver, Victoria, Kelowna BC, and London, ON do not accept religious advertising on their buses, and so rejected atheist advertising also.

Halifax transit officials announced they will be forced to reconsider their decision once the Supreme Court hands down a verdict in a pending related case. The Canadian Federation of Students and BC Teachers’ Federation are currently appealing BC TransLink’s decision not to allow their political advertising on Vancouver public transit on the grounds that this violates their right to freedom of expression. Given that BC TransLink is a public rather than a private company, and is thus obliged to follow public standards concerning freedom of speech, their success seems likely, and is expected to have a great impact on other Canadian cities’ decisions of whether to allow atheist bus ads.
In Genoa, Italy, the Catholic Church forced atheists to change their slogan from The bad news is that God doesn’t exist. The good news is that we don’t need him to The good news is that there are millions of atheists in Italy. The best news is that they believe in freedom of expression.

In Australia not only was the  “probably no god” message refused, but even Celebrate reason: Sleep in on Sunday mornings and Atheism – Celebrate reason were turned down by the largest outdoor ad company in the country.

The Freedom from Religion Foundation in the United States came up with very creative ads, including

The atheist bus ads have become such a household word that the United Church of Canada has started running their own ad.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

People have opened their wallets to the campaign because they feel it gives a public voice to their point of view, in a way never seen before. It gives them a sense of solidarity with other atheists. They derive satisfaction from giving confidence to other nonbelievers and doubters who may feel bound by a need to appease religious family and friends.

The Humanist Association of Ottawa teamed up with the Freethought Association of Canada and atheistbus.ca to put Sherine’s ads on Ottawa buses. We were told that the Transit Committee had rejected our ads, but Pattision, the company which places advertising on the buses, offered us a discounted rate on roadside billboard ads instead. We thought about the billboards but decided to stick with our original application, since
OC Transpo had previously approved a number of Christian ads for the buses and we saw no reason why we should not receive equal treatment.

The HAO Board met on February 17th. Realizing that City councilor Alex Cullen, the Chair of the Transit Committee, had decided to ask the reason for OC Transpo’s rejection of our ads at a Transit Committee meeting the following day, it became clear through discussion that we should go to City Hall right before the meeting to make our opinion known.

The HAO put out a press release that night to every English-language media outlet in the Ottawa area. We contacted as many members as we could reach at the last minute. Seanna Watson (HAO President) spent most of the night making T shirts saying “Why not in Ottawa?” with our ad slogan. We didn’t think we’d be allowed to carry signs in City Hall, but we were pretty sure clothing was permitted (or even required).

In spite of the short notice, four of us were able to make it the next morning. We stood somewhat nervously in front of the door to the meeting room, not sure what would happen. There had been no time to apply for a permit or ask about rules. We didn’t know if we were allowed to be there, if we would be asked to leave, or if we were even at risk of being arrested.

And then the first cameraman showed up. We put blue tape over our mouths and waited. He came up and began photographing us. Then more people arrived. One asked us tentatively “Would you speak to us?”

I have never been too free with identifying myself as an atheist, for fear of the silent discrimination in our society. People almost never ask my religion, and if they do ask what they really want to know is whether I am part of their own particular denomination. I tell them I’m a Humanist.

That day we were surrounded by microphones, still cameras, and TV cameras. Everybody wanted to know our names and why we were there. It was just like a movie scene of a media scrum. I felt like after a lifetime of keeping my toes dry I was suddenly standing on the edge of the high diving board.

I took a deep breath and jumped in.

That day we were all over the news. I heard we were on CBC radio at noon, even before the vote had been taken at the meeting. We were on the television news, the radio, and in every one of the five daily English and French newspapers in the Ottawa area. The publicity was phenomenal!

Once the reporters had had the chance to interview and photograph us to their hearts’ content, we learned that we were allowed to attend the Transit Committee meeting. Alex Cullen even came over and told showed us the form we should fill out if we wished to have up to five minutes to address the Committee.

It took most of the day to get to the bus ad issue, with the journalists coming up to us periodically to take more photos or ask more questions. When the matter came up, Alain Mercier, the Manager of OC Transpo, waffled around a bit, ultimately giving several reasons for his staff’s decision to reject the ads. He said that the policy stated that religious advertising was unacceptable unless it advertised a specific event, with a date and time listed. (Nothing wrong with that policy, except that OC Transpo had previously accepted ads from the Anglican Church, the Pentecostal Church, and Bus Stop Bible Studies, none of which listed specific events, times, and places.) He said that they felt that our ad could be offensive to Transit riders, and that they had wanted to avoid controversy. Oops.

David Burton (another HAO director) addressed the Transit Committee, making a wonderful case for why we should be allowed to run the ads. Then another member of the public, Teresa Milligan, took a turn to speak. She stated that atheists should never be allowed to run ads, since the Stalinist Soviet Union was atheistic and they had committed
terrible atrocities, killing millions of people. Atheists are therefore dangerous people who should not be allowed to air their views.

When I heard that I knew that we could never let these ideas go unchallenged. Even though I had not planned to speak, and had not prepared any remarks, I quickly grabbed a “Request to Speak” form and scribbled in the required information as fast as I could before Milligan finished her five minutes of speaking time. A man appeared and took the form from my hand, and I was called to the microphone. I explained to the committee that Humanists never advocate or participate in violence of any kind, and that far more atrocities have been committed in the name of religion than in the name of Atheism. I cited the bombing of the World Trade Centre as one such example. One of the Guiding Principles of Humanism is that we advocate the peaceful resolution of conflicts. (I later discovered that Stalin’s evil was in fact committed in the name of Communism
rather than Atheism.)

The six councilors present at the meeting discussed the ads for a while prior to the vote on overturning the ban, with Cullen calling the ads censorship and a denial of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms’ guarantee of freedom of speech. Councilor Marianne Wilkinson stated that she found the ad offensive to her as a Christian.  ‘It grates on me,’ she whined. They voted 3-3, not enough to overturn the ban, so Cullen said that he would bring the matter to a full City Council meeting on March 11.

This time we had a chance to be much better prepared. Seanna added a back to the T-shirts which listed all 15 cities around the world where atheist bus ads were already running, along the lines of a rock concert tour, with Ottawa? at the bottom. We got together two dozen people from as far away as Bowmanville for a protest at the start of the meeting on March 11, and had lots more press coverage. There was a group of children who had been bussed in from a Christian school to protest our ads.

A new member of HAO, Paul LeClair, had written a song about the bus ads titled “Freedom of Expression”. He played it for the press, and then went outside to serenade the Christian schoolchildren with it.

At the meeting we learned that Alex Cullen had asked the City’s legal team to analyze the City’s chances of upholding their ban of our ads should we decide to take the matter to court. They released a six-page document giving all the reasons and precedents why the City hadn’t a hope of winning any such lawsuit. The City lawyer estimated the cost to the city of such a battle at about $10,000 – 20,000.

Marianne Wilkinson and her cronies on the council had another try at banning the ads, wanting to rewrite the city’s policy so as to exclude them. They had no particular plan of how they could word such a policy, given the legal opinion that it couldn’t be done, but their move would at least postpone the ads’ debut. Mayor Larry O’Brien spoke about the inter-faith council which he chairs, and said that everybody on the council felt that the ads should be allowed to run. In spite of this, he later voted to uphold the ban.

Alain Mercier was on the hot seat again, and was forced to admit that had he known that the ban would never stand up to a court challenge he would not have suggested it in the first place. At this point there were about fifteen of us sitting together in the public seats. Even though the public is not allowed to speak at full city council meetings, we were quite noticeable in our white T shirts, and the councilors were clearly aware of our presence, referring to us several times during the debate. At one point Cullen mentioned that the city “hadn’t a prayer” of winning a legal challenge, and the councilor beside him
gestured towards us chuckling in the audience, commenting “They got it!”

Whether due to personal convictions that it was the right thing to do, or from distaste at the idea of  wasting city money on an unwinnable legal battle, the Council voted 13-7 in favour of running our ads. The ads have been running on Ottawa buses since 7 April.

You can read more about the worldwide atheist bus campaign in the Summer edition of HumanistPerspectives, expected to be published in June.

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Atheist bus campaign rolls into Ottawa

Toronto, ON. (April 13, 2009)―There’s probably no god.  Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.   The atheist ads are now up on buses in Ottawa.

“The campaign has overcome a few hurdles,” said Justin Trottier, President of the Freethought Association.  “A long bus drivers’ strike followed by refusal by OC Transpo and city of Ottawa Transit committee.” In March, those decisions were overturned by a vote of Ottawa City Council.

These ads are an invitation to begin dialogue, discussion, and demonstrate the principles of freedom of expression and religion that apply equally to non-believers and people of all faiths.

Visit the Campaign at http://atheistbus.ca for more information.

The Humanist Association of Ottawa (http://ottawa.humanists.net/) has been promoting secular humanism in the nation’s capital for over 40 years.

And below are a few more images that were sent to us from Calgary.

Right now we’re lacking images of both Calgary and Ottawa ads. If you happen to snap a photo of our ad and feel like sharing them, please email them to photos {at} atheistbus.ca. Thanks!

We will start with the Roman’s. They were meticulous for keeping records and in fact there are hundreds of surviving documents from the 1st century. Documents from historians, philosophers, religious thinkers, public officials, poets, and even private persons have been discovered all from the 1st century. How many of these sources made reference to Jesus? Zero. There were no birth records, no correspondences, no literary discussions, no personal reflections, nothing at all that mentioned a Jesus in any way at any time… you’d think there would be something, especially after the way Mel Gibson portrays Jesus in “Passion of the Christ”.

Finally at 112 C.E. Pliny the Younger, a Roman governor of Bithynia-Pontus made mention of Jesus. He was concerned about the prosecution of Christians and mentioned that they were in a range of social classes and that they worshiped Jesus as a god, there was no reference to the life and teachings of him  or anything else.

The second, from a Roman historian named Suetonius who only mentions “Chrestus” aka “good one” once and this was a few years after Pliny. He made mention of riots among Jews in Rome during the reign of Claudius from 41-54 C.E.

The Third Roman reference was by Tacitus at 115 C.E. He mentions that emperor Nero blamed the Christians for fires he started and that he was executed by Pontius Pilate in the reign of Tiberius but does not mention how Jesus lived, his teachings, etc.

There are no roman sources within the first 100 years after the supposed life and death of Jesus and finally the records that do show up are 79+ years after when some believe Jesus died. What evidence is there that he is anything like the Christians and other religions believe he is?

Based on Christian sources outside of the New Testament gospels, the apostle Paul mentions eight things about Jesus, the earliest letter is from 50 C.E. What Paul has said was that he was a Jew and born of a woman (Gal 4:4), that he ministered among Jews (Rom 15:7), had brothers (1Cor 9:5), last supper (1 Cor 11:23-25), possible betrayal (1 Cor 11:23 “handed over”), was crucified (1 Cor 2:2), and also had 12 disciples (1Cor 15:5). On top of that Paul hardly provides any information about Jesus teachings and in fact only mentions three things Jesus said. What Paul mentioned were the words of the last supper, that Jesus was against divorce, and a cryptic message that might mean people should pay their preacher. The rest is left to interpretation.

There are the New Testament non-Pauline letters of the four gospels but they cannot be used literally and they do not provide historians with an accurate synopsis of the life of Jesus. The New Testament gospels were written 35-75 years after Jesus and were not written by Jesus earliest followers. All four gospels are anonymous as well… meaning that no body actually knows who wrote them, also meaning that a Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John weren’t actually written by a Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John despite what most common-day church goers probably believe.  The four gospels are also inconsistent with each other and it is agreed among scholars that perspectives of each book have been affected and influenced by the writers own bias. Since written there have also been some additions added to the books that were not by the original authors.

The book of Mathew was most likely written between 85-95 C.E, contains a unique birth narriative, adds to Mark’s passion narrative, and portrays Jesus as the new Moses. Mark was written between 70-75 C.E. and doesn’t contain any birth narrative nor any resurrection stories, he is portrayed in full human nature (has human emotions such as fear, anger, etc). Luke was approximately written around 85-95C.E. with a unique birth narrative, Jesus is portrayed as showing little or no emotions (remember book of Mark says he is more emotional), does not suffer during ‘the passion’. The gospel according to John was written aprox. 90-120 C.E., Jesus is portrayed as being in complete control, gives long speeches throughout (how could anyone remember the exact words ppl said so long after?) and the book of John also adds unique material that none of the other gospels share.

These sources provide almost no historical information about Jesus because the authors have interpreted Jesus’ life rather than reported it. There are also contradictions which make it very hard to determine anything conclusive when evidence is not in agreement. Contradictions include Mark claiming Jesus attempted to keep his identity a secret but John mentions Jesus making his identity very public, Mark says Jesus told parables so people would not understand while Matthew says it was so they would understand, Matthew, Mark, and Luke have Jesus empty the Temple at the end of his ministry while John has him do so to begin his ministry.

There is virtually no actual evidence of miracles, dying and rising again, and all of the fairy tale superstition that many Christians and other religious folk believe. There is only theological interpretation and that cannot be used to reconstruct a biography of Jesus.

There is also alleged events that are shared between Jesus and another Egyptian mythological character named Horus. Such events include same ages of baptism, same fate of baptizers, same activities such as walking on water, cast out demons, healed sick, also died and resurrected. For a full range of comparisons click here.

Last year there was also an ancient tablet discovered that further adds fuel to fire the debate that the Jesus story was actually Jewish tradition. The tablet discovered speaks of a messiah called Simon who will rise from the dead after three days. Full story here.

So in sum, was there a Jesus? Maybe. Was he anything like modern mainstream Christian religions presuppose him to be? Definitely not, and most scholars will agree to that.

Happy Easter everybody.

Sources:

- Bronner, Ethan. “The New York Times Log In.” The New York Times – Breaking News, World News & Multimedia. 6 July 2008. 11 Apr. 2009 <http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/world/middleeast/06stone.html?_r=2&oref=slogin>.

- Michael, Tony. “Life of Jesus.” Christianity in Context – Life of Jesus Lecture. York University, Toronto. 22 Sept. 2008.

-Robinson, B.A. “Jesus’ and Horus’ life events, etc.” ReligiousTolerance.org by the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance. 25 Apr. 2004. 11 Apr. 2009 <http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm>.

- Weaver, Mary Jo, and David Brakke. Introduction to Christianity. Belmont: Wadsworth, 2008.