Campaign Update
Campaign Updates, Discussion March 29th, 2009Hey everyone, here is an update on where we’re at with the Canadian Atheist Bus Campaign, what’s coming up, and some news about a Calgary counter advert campaign.
Ottawa Atheist Bus Ads:
We’ve signed a contract and our production artwork has been submitted, the ads are scheduled to be posted on April 6th. There will be 24 King Size bus ads (the big ones on the sides of buses).
Next Step in Advertising:
We have a little bit of money left to advertise with, those who have any suggestions on the best way to spend it please post in the comments. I personally would like to either advertise quotes on the interiors of buses and subways or put a poster up on Dundas Square as seen in the mock-up picture I created to the right. Dundas Square has always seen religious groups advertising through word-of-mouth and fliers and just yesterday I saw a group attempting to convert passerby’ers to Islam. Maybe it’s time to spread a little bit of atheist love.
I also wanted to propose an idea similar to that of which the bus stop bible studies is already doing. During the CFI Ontario Annual General Meeting I proposed that we should be advertising educational quotes sponsored by donors. We would have a list of proposed quotes to advertise and donors would send us money for the advertisement and we’d handle the production and posting. We would also give the donor a choice to have his or her name listed on the advertisement as the sponsor. If you want to share your suggestions about this idea, please comment below.
Allah vs. God, What’s the Difference?
I’ve received at least a dozen emails asking why we are apparently picking on Christians with our advertisement (we aren’t picking on Christians btw), they would like us to advertise a message that opposes the Muslim and Islamic religion. So to anyone reading this and wondering why we don’t say ‘Allah’, here is the answer. Allah means God. Taken from godallah.com, “The word “Allah” is the perfect description of the “One God” of monotheism for Jews, Christians and Muslims“. From dictionary.com, “–noun Islam. the Supreme Being; God“. When we mention ‘God’ we are referring to all monotheistic and polytheistic gods of every religion. That’s probably why Imam Syed B. Soharwardy, a Muslim, has recently used $12,000 of credit with his own personal credit card to purchase and produce 8 advertisements for the sides of Calgary’s city transit buses.
Imam Syed Soharwardy Buys $12,000 of Ad Space With Personal Credit.
In Calgary a group titled “God Exists” has started advertising a message that says “God cares for everyone…. even those who say he doesn’t exist”. The ads were paid for by Imam Soharwardy with his own personal credit card.
According to CBC, Soharwardy has said “The message they are saying is that believing in God creates worries, that it takes away joy from people’s life, which is wrong. It is not true,” and that “Believing in God brings strength, especially in this economic crisis when millions of people face losing their jobs.”
To add a little bit of my own commentary as a response, I would say that believing in god ‘takes strength’ rather than ‘brings strength’ because it is always harder to believe in something/someone that doesn’t exist. And rather than clasping our hands in prayer during this time of economic crisis, we should be lending eachother a helping hand and doing what we can to help our follow man/woman out.
Soharwardy has it wrong when he said that beliving in god doesn’t create worries. I’ll share with you a personal anecdote from my childhood when my friend and I went to see a church play. When I was 11 years old and at the time a Pentecostal Christian, the church I attended allowed a travelling Christian show to perform. The title of the performance was “Heaven’s Gates and Hells Flames”. The play was about various people of Christian faith and non believers- it showcased the last minutes of their lives. After each person died they appeared at the gates of heaven. Those who believed in the Christian God and Jesus were permitted to enter heaven and those who weren’t were dragged into hell after a group of demons and ‘Lucifer’ appeared. There was loud music, demonic voices, and sound effects used that were accompanied by lighting and fog machines to try and amplify the experience of hell. After my friend watched this, he told my family that he ‘gave his heart to Jesus twice’ just to be safe because he was so scared that he would go to hell. Looking back at this I feel great sadness for any child that is subjected to such mental torture and abuse. The fact is that religion does bring fear and worry into many peoples lives and so Sohwardy is wrong. I can’t imagine why anyone would want God to exist after reading the bible or the Qur’an (visit evilbible.com to see what I’m talking about).







March 30th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Let’s move the ads outside of Toronto. At the University of Alberta we postered the basic ad and all were ripped down within 5 days. And this is on our campus. Let’s run these ads on Edmonton Transit and show them we’re not afraid!
Or send out grants to campus groups to poster these. We printed 50 11×17′s for under $50. $1000 will buy a lot of posters on campuses nation-wide.
March 30th, 2009 at 5:18 am
I’m not moving back to Toronto until the end of August, but I’d really like to see Atheist quotes on the inside of the subway/street cars.
Dundas Square is a good idea too (and harder for theists to rip down,) but it is more likely someone will read and think about a quote while trapped in a cramped metal box with strangers they are trying to avoid eye-contact with.
March 30th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Excellent.
People are talking. And that’s great.
“God” (whatever “that” is) exists in every single particle. I am “that” I am.
God is in “All” and all is in “God” (whatever “that” is)
Some have stopped looking. But that really doesn’t matter. Whether you look or don’t look….”God” is all “that” is.
So “God” bless you for this super Ad campaign.
People are finally starting to understand that there is no “God” in the heavens.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:01 am
At last, a definition of “God”! I thought I’d never drag it out of you. Phew.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I had childhood insomnia due to worry about my soul and the souls of those I loved. I have never felt so free as I did when I gave up religion and stopped praying.
I’m in Calgary, and I have only seen our buses once. How many do we have exactly?
March 30th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Oh ya, childhood. I went to “General Brock” on Birchmount in Toronto for Grade 2 in 1971 at age 7. I was tortured and abused by students and teachers there. Alas, I can’t single out any religion for it. A conspiracy awaiting a name. I wonder if they understood the law completely, or revenge. Which one of the religions teaches physics above all else again, I kinda forgot the name?
March 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Anna,
Someboy taught you some very bad stuff about souls.
Don’t worry about a “soul” – just “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
March 31st, 2009 at 9:51 am
No suggestions about how to use the rest of the cash, but just a comment to say that I’m pleased with the campaign. Every time I see one of our ads on the side of a bus, it makes me smile. For how long will they be running?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:01 am
Okay its definition day. Allah and the Christian God are widely viewed as different I’m assuming. Since I’m not very religious, I just like watching god kick the butts of left-wing science power-grabbers. Hm, did I mention I wrote the Dean of Science of UBC about 6 months ago? Jay Ingram of Discovery Chanel? The Globe and Mail about its boilerplate article by Justin Chow on ID vs. Creationism misdefinitions. I even wrote the minister of education and was briefly on council at our school and complained to the textbook committee of the school. Oh and I tried to get some advice from the Suzuki clan.
You know what they all had to say? You got it, *nothing*. Woohoo. Everyone will taste the power behind their correction of their own ignorance soon.
I kept all my letters, and like here, I do not mention “god” unless forcibly required to (actually, as I recall — sigh, so many letters, I did not).
“Dignity of a Nation”, my eye. You can’t even get the B.C. government interested in correcting the influences of a foreign culture when you’re trying to put on a good show at the Olympics.
So have fun with your letter writing campaigns. Just be sure you write things the politicians want you to! Ha!
March 31st, 2009 at 10:07 am
Oh forgot one, and I blasted the National Post’s Yoni Goldstein for his anti-Olympics pieces. Haven’t subscribed to them for so long, I forgot briefly. Sorry.
2010, what a farce and national embarrassment.
March 31st, 2009 at 2:18 pm
About the artwork. I gave you an honest opinion in an email to you. You need a graphic artist. Look at the beauty of the Angel & Demons artwork in the attached picture. A movie that even worships the right of power…. ooooh ahhhh.
You need some beautiful buddist woman, you something like, “I waited for God to take me to Ginza shopping for these clothes, but only after I met Jeff did my dreams come true”.
I like it.
March 31st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Hey, I had a funding idea. You can get FCUK to bankroll the clothes, the bottom of the sign could say,
Courtesy: FCUK MI5.
And a quote of course, Daniel C. Dennet on the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett
“it was fortunate for the world that the attackers targeted the World Trade Center…”
hm, the rest is something about “paroxysms of revenge”:
“…instead of the Statue of Liberty, for if they had destroyed our sacred symbol of democracy I fear we as Americans would have been unable to keep ourselves from indulging in paroxysms of revenge”
A man that believes symbol destruction cause paroxysms of revenge.
You do know who Daniel C. Dennet is, right?
March 31st, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Quote #2: Richard Dawkins, an interview with Sheena McDonald:
“Maybe somewhere in some other galaxy there is a super-intelligence so colossal that from our point of view it would be a god”
How am I doing, by the way?
March 31st, 2009 at 7:06 pm
hhmmm well I really like the idea of putting up thought provoking, famous atheist quotations….maybe on billboards? Have you checked the prices for billboards? Might be reasonable
I will give it some thought…
Although you could always take the cities that didn’t allow the ads to court for not following the charter
April 1st, 2009 at 6:35 am
Jeff K, stop spamming.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:28 am
Mat, give me a counter argument.
Devon, bzzt. Wrong level of inference. Ontario Human Rights code of *my* rights is the correct level of inference.
I don’t tire of listening to the arguments of children. Their philosophy has not yet been ruined by their post-secondary education yet.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:14 am
Here is “God” ….
אב
April 1st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Learn your Aleph-bet
April 1st, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Jeff K, give us something coherent and on topic. You are no better than a spam bot.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 am
Chris is doing an excellent job with the spam bots. He has even moderated some of my not very well thought out over-the-top digs into Justin Trottier’s children’s education ideas. I declare Chris God over Spam Bots.
My stuff is supposed to be thought provoking and funny. I’m sorry if your effort to drag the Charter of Rights into some protest frenzy is being interfered with by reasonable arguments about something that looked to me like an MI5 honeypot in Britain was copied, possibly innocently here in Canada into something that in this country, #5 of all Christian countries, well, at least looks out of place to me, as perhaps you have read from me before. You should do some self-moderation. You know you have not responded with a counter-argument, as agreed to.
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 am
Your stuff is neither thought provoking or funny, and you don’t mean it to be. You are intentionally trying to be annoying because you feel offended people don’t believe in the gibberish that you do.
The oppression Atheists face is a breach of our rights, but Christians unfortunately control much of this Country. Give us at least this one website, free of ridiculous religious spam.
I am sure the moderator would love to hear intelligent Christian opinions, but I think that until you can formulate one of those you should take some time off from posting here.
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
done.