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	<title>Comments on: Live Tonight:  Should Atheist Ads be Allowed on the TTC?</title>
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		<title>By: Alexander</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/02/09/live-tonight-should-atheist-ads-be-allowed-on-the-ttc/comment-page-1/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Unitarian Universalist, I believe that the best Bus Sign should read: To Be Ethical One Needs Not To Adhere To A Dogma or Creed, Rather, One Needs To Adhere To Show, &quot;The Respect For The Interdependent Web of All Existence of Which We Are A Part&quot;.  UU 7th Principle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Unitarian Universalist, I believe that the best Bus Sign should read: To Be Ethical One Needs Not To Adhere To A Dogma or Creed, Rather, One Needs To Adhere To Show, &#8220;The Respect For The Interdependent Web of All Existence of Which We Are A Part&#8221;.  UU 7th Principle</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to quote my younger Brother on santa claus when he ws like 9 or something.

&quot;Isn&#039;t it amazing all the magic there is in the world?, like Santa Claus, the easter bunny, and God?&quot; 

All lumped together, because all have the same evidence (My parents told him).

God is santa claus for adults</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to quote my younger Brother on santa claus when he ws like 9 or something.</p>
<p>&#8220;Isn&#8217;t it amazing all the magic there is in the world?, like Santa Claus, the easter bunny, and God?&#8221; </p>
<p>All lumped together, because all have the same evidence (My parents told him).</p>
<p>God is santa claus for adults</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry I must have gotten my mythical beings mixed up,
Santa sees if your naughty or nice...etc.

Well you can&#039;t prove that Santa Claus doesn&#039;t exist, maybe %99.9999. So you should never tell children he doesn&#039;t exist right?

To be %100 sure about somtehing seems arraogant and would close many many doors. (also known as faith, there are scant situations where the evidence is sufficient to support %100, maybe you can be %100 sure about your existence...can&#039;t think of any others...) What&#039;s the point of continueing to learn about something if you already know for SURE what the truth is?


&quot;And science has only been here for maybe 50,000, 100,000 years?&quot;
I have no clue what you think science is, hint, it is not some younger competing god. 

Oh yea? well the flying spaghetti monster is infinity plus 1000 years old, so he must exist!!!


&quot;How many people are complaining that they have been told lies by their parents about Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, easter bunny? &quot;

I complained a bit, my mom said it never felt right to her. What a wonderful role model Santa Claus is? You teach your children that it is O.K. to lie to people in order to get them to behave the way you want?

I can be a big enough role model for my kids, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry I must have gotten my mythical beings mixed up,<br />
Santa sees if your naughty or nice&#8230;etc.</p>
<p>Well you can&#8217;t prove that Santa Claus doesn&#8217;t exist, maybe %99.9999. So you should never tell children he doesn&#8217;t exist right?</p>
<p>To be %100 sure about somtehing seems arraogant and would close many many doors. (also known as faith, there are scant situations where the evidence is sufficient to support %100, maybe you can be %100 sure about your existence&#8230;can&#8217;t think of any others&#8230;) What&#8217;s the point of continueing to learn about something if you already know for SURE what the truth is?</p>
<p>&#8220;And science has only been here for maybe 50,000, 100,000 years?&#8221;<br />
I have no clue what you think science is, hint, it is not some younger competing god. </p>
<p>Oh yea? well the flying spaghetti monster is infinity plus 1000 years old, so he must exist!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;How many people are complaining that they have been told lies by their parents about Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, easter bunny? &#8221;</p>
<p>I complained a bit, my mom said it never felt right to her. What a wonderful role model Santa Claus is? You teach your children that it is O.K. to lie to people in order to get them to behave the way you want?</p>
<p>I can be a big enough role model for my kids, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/02/09/live-tonight-should-atheist-ads-be-allowed-on-the-ttc/comment-page-1/#comment-1240</link>
		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I m talking about &quot;GOD&quot; Not Santa Claus. Santa Claus cannot compare to the &quot;GOD&quot;. It is a totally different topic.

Devon, I will tell children about Santa Claus Because that kind of role model brings so much positive social values to the children in their early age. So they will grow up with good social, kind, And wonderful behavior that will bring joy in his/her life for years to come as well as others. 

Please tell me what kind of role model would you set for the kids out there? 

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&quot;It is sickening to see children lied to, and threatened with hellfire, your there parents! of course they will believe you, they believed you when you told them about Santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny etc!!!&quot;

How many people are complaining that they have been told lies by their parents about Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, easter bunny? 

Imagining such motivated thoughts are the ways people can understand big subjects by full potentials of their brain.

Please think about the line in between God and nothing.
My basic point is that you cannot be 100% sure that god does or doesn&#039;t exist It can only reach 99.9999_%.
And science has only been here for maybe 50,000, 100,000 years? But The definition of God indicates INFINITE amount of time. It never quits.
I pray you get all the power to define your thoughts 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I m talking about &#8220;GOD&#8221; Not Santa Claus. Santa Claus cannot compare to the &#8220;GOD&#8221;. It is a totally different topic.</p>
<p>Devon, I will tell children about Santa Claus Because that kind of role model brings so much positive social values to the children in their early age. So they will grow up with good social, kind, And wonderful behavior that will bring joy in his/her life for years to come as well as others. </p>
<p>Please tell me what kind of role model would you set for the kids out there? </p>
<p>Quote-<br />
&#8220;It is sickening to see children lied to, and threatened with hellfire, your there parents! of course they will believe you, they believed you when you told them about Santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny etc!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>How many people are complaining that they have been told lies by their parents about Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, easter bunny? </p>
<p>Imagining such motivated thoughts are the ways people can understand big subjects by full potentials of their brain.</p>
<p>Please think about the line in between God and nothing.<br />
My basic point is that you cannot be 100% sure that god does or doesn&#8217;t exist It can only reach 99.9999_%.<br />
And science has only been here for maybe 50,000, 100,000 years? But The definition of God indicates INFINITE amount of time. It never quits.<br />
I pray you get all the power to define your thoughts 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvard&#039;s Reply to RAJ --- 

Hello Raj ---  
You ask what atheists believe in?  Well, rationalists believe in everything you do, except for one thing: an imaginary friend who lives up in the sky.  
However, rationalists believe in something that god-worshippers do not -- Truth.  When you tell little children there is a god, heaven, angels, hell, saints, and so on, you are filling their impressionable heads with nonsense.  
Raj, are you not aware that most of the intellectuals who have ever lived were rationalists?  From Bill Gates (Microsoft)and Steve Wozniak (inventor of MacIntosh Computers) to Angelina Jolie, Jack Nicholson, Jodie Foster, and on to Albert Einstein and Arthur Miller.   So, Raj, have you got the idea now?  Rationalists are in all levels of society, living with their families in peace, love, and industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvard&#8217;s Reply to RAJ &#8212; </p>
<p>Hello Raj &#8212;<br />
You ask what atheists believe in?  Well, rationalists believe in everything you do, except for one thing: an imaginary friend who lives up in the sky.<br />
However, rationalists believe in something that god-worshippers do not &#8212; Truth.  When you tell little children there is a god, heaven, angels, hell, saints, and so on, you are filling their impressionable heads with nonsense.<br />
Raj, are you not aware that most of the intellectuals who have ever lived were rationalists?  From Bill Gates (Microsoft)and Steve Wozniak (inventor of MacIntosh Computers) to Angelina Jolie, Jack Nicholson, Jodie Foster, and on to Albert Einstein and Arthur Miller.   So, Raj, have you got the idea now?  Rationalists are in all levels of society, living with their families in peace, love, and industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/02/09/live-tonight-should-atheist-ads-be-allowed-on-the-ttc/comment-page-1/#comment-1234</link>
		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow RAJ, you are worried children will question there beliefs? Maybe they will find out Santa Claus is not real.
You think that telling a child they will burn in searing pain for eternity is teaching good values?

Maybe instead of beating up a kid they will look in the bible and read that they should stone him to death because he is an unbeliever?

&quot;The childrens while enroute to school reading the articles on the buses, would question their parents why do they “pray to god?”&quot; 

That is (I hope) the point of this campaign! It is sickening to see children lied to, and threatened with hellfire, your there parents! of course they will believe you, they believed you when you told them about Santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny etc!!!

And &quot;And You don’t want to worry about improving the mankind and societies for good and to succeed in life towards Eternity. &quot; ? you got to be kidding, you think that the knowledge that this is the only life, planet etc we will ever have will cause us to throw it away?!??!!

So many times christians have been uncaring towards the environment because &quot;god will take care of it&quot; or &quot;we are only on this pitiful world for a few measly years before an eternity in heaven&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow RAJ, you are worried children will question there beliefs? Maybe they will find out Santa Claus is not real.<br />
You think that telling a child they will burn in searing pain for eternity is teaching good values?</p>
<p>Maybe instead of beating up a kid they will look in the bible and read that they should stone him to death because he is an unbeliever?</p>
<p>&#8220;The childrens while enroute to school reading the articles on the buses, would question their parents why do they “pray to god?”&#8221; </p>
<p>That is (I hope) the point of this campaign! It is sickening to see children lied to, and threatened with hellfire, your there parents! of course they will believe you, they believed you when you told them about Santa, tooth fairy, easter bunny etc!!!</p>
<p>And &#8220;And You don’t want to worry about improving the mankind and societies for good and to succeed in life towards Eternity. &#8221; ? you got to be kidding, you think that the knowledge that this is the only life, planet etc we will ever have will cause us to throw it away?!??!!</p>
<p>So many times christians have been uncaring towards the environment because &#8220;god will take care of it&#8221; or &#8220;we are only on this pitiful world for a few measly years before an eternity in heaven&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think ads should be allowed on ttc buses. If the &quot;Free Speech Organisation&quot; wants to spread the word about &quot;there&#039;s no god&quot;, then they should spread it on their atheist group sources. But not in public, Because there are so many religious people out there that believe in their god/guru/Ultimate Role models that are God for them. The childrens while enroute to school reading the articles on the buses, would question their parents why do they &quot;pray to god?&quot; As there is &quot;No God&quot; stated publicly on the ttc buses. And when the childrens are going to ask the parents &quot;Is there no god?&quot; Who will they believe that they belong to? 

What kind of message would we be sending to our kids, brothers, sisters, nephews, and our loved ones. 

&quot;There&#039;s Probably no god, Now stop worrying and enjoy your life&quot;. 

People that were afraid of &quot;thinking to beating up some stupid kid because of his/her ethnic values&quot; that they will goto hell. You don&#039;t have to worry because there is no god and you can&#039;t be proven wrong.

Question to Atheists - If you don&#039;t believe in god, then who/what do you believe in? And You don&#039;t want to worry about improving the mankind and societies for good and to succeed in life towards Eternity. Please don&#039;t close the doors on yourself. Define the world and the world will define you from within.

Message to everyone - Never quit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think ads should be allowed on ttc buses. If the &#8220;Free Speech Organisation&#8221; wants to spread the word about &#8220;there&#8217;s no god&#8221;, then they should spread it on their atheist group sources. But not in public, Because there are so many religious people out there that believe in their god/guru/Ultimate Role models that are God for them. The childrens while enroute to school reading the articles on the buses, would question their parents why do they &#8220;pray to god?&#8221; As there is &#8220;No God&#8221; stated publicly on the ttc buses. And when the childrens are going to ask the parents &#8220;Is there no god?&#8221; Who will they believe that they belong to? </p>
<p>What kind of message would we be sending to our kids, brothers, sisters, nephews, and our loved ones. </p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s Probably no god, Now stop worrying and enjoy your life&#8221;. </p>
<p>People that were afraid of &#8220;thinking to beating up some stupid kid because of his/her ethnic values&#8221; that they will goto hell. You don&#8217;t have to worry because there is no god and you can&#8217;t be proven wrong.</p>
<p>Question to Atheists &#8211; If you don&#8217;t believe in god, then who/what do you believe in? And You don&#8217;t want to worry about improving the mankind and societies for good and to succeed in life towards Eternity. Please don&#8217;t close the doors on yourself. Define the world and the world will define you from within.</p>
<p>Message to everyone &#8211; Never quit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Offgrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Offgrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devon - Ok thanks I&#039;ll check it out. No off topic quotes. I promise. The only thing that can save us is our own creative impulse. We need peaceful creative solutions to solve these global issues. No more wars.  They get us nowhere.  We are all in this together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devon &#8211; Ok thanks I&#8217;ll check it out. No off topic quotes. I promise. The only thing that can save us is our own creative impulse. We need peaceful creative solutions to solve these global issues. No more wars.  They get us nowhere.  We are all in this together.</p>
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		<title>By: The Wonderful Wizard Of U*Us</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wonderful Wizard Of U*Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I expect that most atheists and most theists can &quot;get along&quot; very well together, and usually do so. It is that intolerant and obnoxious people on either side of that divide who make it difficult to get along who cause most of the problems. Honestly atheists really don&#039;t need people like Richard Dawkins and P.Z. Myers et al as their most visible and outspoken public representatives. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I expect that most atheists and most theists can &#8220;get along&#8221; very well together, and usually do so. It is that intolerant and obnoxious people on either side of that divide who make it difficult to get along who cause most of the problems. Honestly atheists really don&#8217;t need people like Richard Dawkins and P.Z. Myers et al as their most visible and outspoken public representatives. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No harm in sharing info, Offgrid.
If you want a good site with great forums on sustainable living...first you have to promise not to quote a bunch of stuff off topic to them, ok? They don&#039;t discuss religion very much...I don&#039;t think they allow it, thats not what the forums are for...anyways www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net great info there. 

Rather than wind, solar, geothermal (expensive), I like the idea of a mini water turbine in a creek...steady power.

I dont know if this is the appropriate forum for discussing living off grid...but heres a little bit thats more on topic...

I am guessing from your goals you don&#039;t think that God is going to save us from ourselves? I have met many christians who are indifferent to the enviroment because they figure God will intervene etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No harm in sharing info, Offgrid.<br />
If you want a good site with great forums on sustainable living&#8230;first you have to promise not to quote a bunch of stuff off topic to them, ok? They don&#8217;t discuss religion very much&#8230;I don&#8217;t think they allow it, thats not what the forums are for&#8230;anyways <a href="http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net</a> great info there. </p>
<p>Rather than wind, solar, geothermal (expensive), I like the idea of a mini water turbine in a creek&#8230;steady power.</p>
<p>I dont know if this is the appropriate forum for discussing living off grid&#8230;but heres a little bit thats more on topic&#8230;</p>
<p>I am guessing from your goals you don&#8217;t think that God is going to save us from ourselves? I have met many christians who are indifferent to the enviroment because they figure God will intervene etc&#8230;</p>
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