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	<title>Comments on: United Church of Canada to come out with counter ads.</title>
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		<title>By: Dayanti Karunaratne</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-1496</link>
		<dc:creator>Dayanti Karunaratne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all -- Just posted on my blog http://www.dkwrites.blogspot.com/
a &#039;continuation of the discussion&#039; Justin Trottier called for in his Ottawa Citizen editorial today (feb. 18). Full disclosure: I&#039;m a Christian who would have welcomed the ads on Ottawa buses. 

Just one question, and I really hope I haven&#039;t missed this somewhere, but where did the text of these ads come from? 

Frankly, I&#039;m confused by it and would love to hear -- preferably from someone on the inside of the campaign -- where it came from. Why, how, etc., please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all &#8212; Just posted on my blog <a href="http://www.dkwrites.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dkwrites.blogspot.com/</a><br />
a &#8216;continuation of the discussion&#8217; Justin Trottier called for in his Ottawa Citizen editorial today (feb. 18). Full disclosure: I&#8217;m a Christian who would have welcomed the ads on Ottawa buses. </p>
<p>Just one question, and I really hope I haven&#8217;t missed this somewhere, but where did the text of these ads come from? </p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m confused by it and would love to hear &#8212; preferably from someone on the inside of the campaign &#8212; where it came from. Why, how, etc., please!</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay G. King</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay G. King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wondercafeguest wrote:

Hello all, I did try to post a comment on atheistbus.ca ...The very witty counter slogan was something like this: [witty?]

&quot;The bad news is that atheists exist [albeit not in the strict sense of the term]. The good news is that one day they will have to face God.&quot; ...

I prefer to say: THE FACT IS: ATHEISTS DO EXIST. THE GOOD NEWS IS: GOD&#039;S LOVE INCLUDES ATHEISTS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wondercafeguest wrote:</p>
<p>Hello all, I did try to post a comment on atheistbus.ca &#8230;The very witty counter slogan was something like this: [witty?]</p>
<p>&#8220;The bad news is that atheists exist [albeit not in the strict sense of the term]. The good news is that one day they will have to face God.&#8221; &#8230;</p>
<p>I prefer to say: THE FACT IS: ATHEISTS DO EXIST. THE GOOD NEWS IS: GOD&#8217;S LOVE INCLUDES ATHEISTS.</p>
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		<title>By: Inannawhimsey</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>Inannawhimsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s try this again.

If the Freethought Association of Canada ad is to encourage people to engage each other in constructive, non-zero-sum game dialogue, then everything is copacetic.

If people are there to prove something, are in their &quot;Young Turk&quot; stage, or don&#039;t believe in what all of our mothers taught us, that tis better to play *well with* others than to play *with* others, that is unfortunate.

I hope both ads will encourage people to create their own ads, exploring their own imaginations and, like has been happening in Wondercafe all the time, to examine universe in all its wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s try this again.</p>
<p>If the Freethought Association of Canada ad is to encourage people to engage each other in constructive, non-zero-sum game dialogue, then everything is copacetic.</p>
<p>If people are there to prove something, are in their &#8220;Young Turk&#8221; stage, or don&#8217;t believe in what all of our mothers taught us, that tis better to play *well with* others than to play *with* others, that is unfortunate.</p>
<p>I hope both ads will encourage people to create their own ads, exploring their own imaginations and, like has been happening in Wondercafe all the time, to examine universe in all its wonder.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is important that we all respect one another. I have been a member of the untied church since my birth. Personally I do not know what I believe anymore. I like the version from the united church. They said there is probably a god, leaving room for discussion. By not saying for sure that there is a god they are not pushing thier views the same way that the athiest group is by saying there is NO god. I think people need to remain open, or atleast respectful, of others views. Either way both ads say something of validity that I think we should all pay attention to. If these ads are now left alone the debate will die and peole can live their lives as they want. &quot;Now stop worrying and enjoy life.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is important that we all respect one another. I have been a member of the untied church since my birth. Personally I do not know what I believe anymore. I like the version from the united church. They said there is probably a god, leaving room for discussion. By not saying for sure that there is a god they are not pushing thier views the same way that the athiest group is by saying there is NO god. I think people need to remain open, or atleast respectful, of others views. Either way both ads say something of validity that I think we should all pay attention to. If these ads are now left alone the debate will die and peole can live their lives as they want. &#8220;Now stop worrying and enjoy life.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: w</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ciekawy blog, dodalem go do ulubionych, bede tu napewno wpadal czesciej</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ciekawy blog, dodalem go do ulubionych, bede tu napewno wpadal czesciej</p>
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		<title>By: MattG</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-750</link>
		<dc:creator>MattG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>w00t!  Got in as the last caller :)  A well done show, with only a couple of lunatics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>w00t!  Got in as the last caller <img src='http://atheistbus.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   A well done show, with only a couple of lunatics.</p>
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		<title>By: MattG</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>MattG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, listening to Justin on the CBC right now.  Sounds good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, listening to Justin on the CBC right now.  Sounds good.</p>
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		<title>By: MattG</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>MattG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ad can be seen across the top of wondercafe.ca

It was in the G&amp;M on the weekend, too, I am told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ad can be seen across the top of wondercafe.ca</p>
<p>It was in the G&amp;M on the weekend, too, I am told.</p>
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		<title>By: Darwin O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Darwin O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone see one of the United Church&#039;s &quot;There probably is a God&quot; ads, let me know where it is. I&#039;m interred in seeing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone see one of the United Church&#8217;s &#8220;There probably is a God&#8221; ads, let me know where it is. I&#8217;m interred in seeing it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Barker</title>
		<link>http://atheistbus.ca/2009/01/30/there-probably-is-a-god-now-stop-worrying/comment-page-2/#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>David Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To atheists on this site who decry the possibility of rational dialogue with (in this case) members of the United Church of Canada, I would invite you to consider the possibility of non-theism or non-realism - the idea that one can have a religious orientation without positing the existence of a supernatural being &quot;out there.&quot;  I also invite you to check out Gretta Vosper&#039;s response to David Giuliano (moderator of the United Church).  Vosper is a minister in the United Church who thinks both positions in this ad campaign are pointless distractions from more pressing issues.  You video of her delivering her response here: www.warmplace.ca or grad a copy of her press release here: *link to untrusted document removed*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To atheists on this site who decry the possibility of rational dialogue with (in this case) members of the United Church of Canada, I would invite you to consider the possibility of non-theism or non-realism &#8211; the idea that one can have a religious orientation without positing the existence of a supernatural being &#8220;out there.&#8221;  I also invite you to check out Gretta Vosper&#8217;s response to David Giuliano (moderator of the United Church).  Vosper is a minister in the United Church who thinks both positions in this ad campaign are pointless distractions from more pressing issues.  You video of her delivering her response here: <a href="http://www.warmplace.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.warmplace.ca</a> or grad a copy of her press release here: *link to untrusted document removed*</p>
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