Comments on: We have approval!

By: Richard

Richard — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:19:21 +0000

More food for thought for WH

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/transitional.html

By: Richard

Richard — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 02:27:44 +0000

Mark X: bang up job…However, I truly doubt that it will affect Wisdon Hunter in any way. For him, it’s not about truth, it’s about being right. He certainly doesn’t wear his pseudonym very well.

By: Mark X

Mark X — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:58:54 +0000

It’s unlikely that anyone on this site would be moved by the quote-mined statements provided by Wisdom Hunter above, but just in case there is, you might want to check out the following link that provides a bit of context and explanation about Dr. Patterson’s words:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/patterson.html

Also, I’m wondering if Wisdom Hunter could provide us with the definition of ‘information’ that he is using with regards to mutations/evolution.

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:18:18 +0000

Ah…you’re less ignorant because you’ve seen the ‘light’ of religious fervor and cannot admit that you spend all your time trying to poke holes in solid theory without realizing that your God of the gaps position is a house of cards! Well, staring at the sun for too long can blind any man…But that would infer that energy is coming from somewhere outside of the Earth…which means that your 2nd Law of thermodynamics argument is false…

Here’s ywhat I suspect your true position is: If the science disagrees with scripture (or in this case, with your understanding of the way the world works) then the science is necessarily wrong (despite the evidence because the scientists made it all up) because I cannot possibly be wrong.

I will not debate with you any longer because you purposely ignore anything you disagree with and then accuse other of ignorance? It is not true debate…it is like talking to a stone. Please evolve.

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:07:11 +0000

Then why so glum!

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:41:49 +0000

Wisdom hunter…of course religious people can be happier…ignorance is bliss.

By: Wisdom Hunter

Wisdom Hunter — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:37:49 +0000

One more thought – on enjoying your life – there have been studies showing that practising believers in Christ, contrary to the popular caricature of us, are actually happier than the majority of the population. Anyway, I have no problem with you guys publicizing your position. Feel free – in the end it is a debate that is impossible to win by rational argument alone. It’s all about faith – evolutionary/atheist faith or theistic faith.

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:29:38 +0000

Wisdom Hunter…you conveniently ignored everything i and everyone else here has presented and I am beginning to believe that you wouldn,t recognize evidence if it hit you on the head…but here’s a good summary of transitional forms:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

By: Wisdom Hunter

Wisdom Hunter — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:02:44 +0000

Richard – as I said, the post that addresses these issues is awaiting moderation. However the bottom line is that even honest evolutionists admit that they cannot come up with verifiable missing links. Most evolutionary science texts present imaginary scenarios as if they were facts, show drawings that look like missing links, and then call them missing links. Dr. Colin Paterson, former senior paleontoligist at the British Museum of Natural History, was a little more honest.

Creationist Luther Sunderland wrote to Dr Patterson inquiring why he had not shown one single photograph of a transitional fossil in his book. Patterson then wrote back with the following amazing confession which was reproduced, in its entirety, in Sunderland’s book Darwin’s Enigma:

‘I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic licence, would that not mislead the reader?’

He went on to say:

‘Yet Gould [Stephen J. Gould—the now deceased professor of paleontology from Harvard University] and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils. … You say that I should at least “show a photo of the fossil from which each type of organism was derived.” I will lay it on the line—there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument.’

If I add the URL again, I’m afraid it may cause my post not to be accepted – but this quotation comes directly from a source that I am able to reference and substantiate. Contact me by e-mail if you want the reference.

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 19:02:27 +0000

Oh..and wisdom hunter…here’s some more reading for you:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html#thermo