No you’re not.

“Do share with us all where Science teaches you morals and where our societies like here in Canada have not based their moral laws on their religious beliefs.”

Stop trotting out the straw man arguments, you disingenuous troll. Nobody claimed that science teaches morals. Societies developed codes of behaviour and justice systems completely independant of religious beliefs. Moral systems have varied over time and from culture to culture, place to place. Traditionally morals have most often been association with religious beliefs in order to justify behaviour that is NOT universally acceptable (like slavery, spousal/child abuse, clerical authority, etc). The fact that morals/ethics that are universally agreed upon happen to appear in holy books (stealing, murder) is pure coincidence.

“Its obvious you all take things to absurd extremes with comments like stoning for working on Sunday. You need to take the dust off your Bible and read it before misquoting it. The bible doesn’t say to stone someone for working on Sunday.”

http://bible.cc/exodus/31-15.htm
also Numbers 15:32 – 36

“Your only responding to me with the same overblown fanaticism you accuse supposed religious fanatics of in this campaign. You’ve simply replaced a creator God with a thinking man’s god of Science and are now trying to push that point at the expenses of civility and respect.”

More “lying for Jesus”. It’s been pointed out to you time & again that science does not rely on dogma; everything is subject to question and the highest rewards go to those who disprove “accepted wisdom”. There is no such thing as blasphemy or heresy outside of religion.

“Your whole campaign is to intimidate, not educate.”

I can only marvel that your head doesn’t explode due to irony overload when you type the above statement.

“Only if someones speaks like you will he be considered by you thinking man following logic. Otherwise he’s ridiculed and called all sorts of names.”

No. Only if someone thinks and employs logic will they be considered a thinking, logical person. It helps to articulate their thoughts clearly and make their case using evidence and examples as opposed to parroting (yes, parroting) indefensible, bullshit catchphrases.

“Science will not make you better men as you yourselves have shown.”

More meaningless, unsubstantiated, trite, self-serving drivel.

Goodbye? I assume that you’ve given up…

Hey, everyone…it worked!

Again my points have been validated by you.

Goodbye.

First,did you actually read what I said, or did you just pick and choose like you do when you read the bible? You demand respect but offer none. You demand the truth but are unwilling to look at the lies. You try to provoke us, but you accuse us of being provocative. You imply that we are immoral without god, but when confronted by your own words, you try to weasel your way out of it by rationalizing your own words…or outright lying….oh the morality. You accuse us of being insulting, yet you plead self-defense when the favour is returned in-kind. We will have you know that this site and this campaign were not intended for those people who are not willing to question their own beliefs…these people would refuse to see an alternative viewpoint no matter how much evidence was available. Therefore, we wonder why you are so persistent. Perhaps you are trying to evangelize us. We woN,t go the way of the aboriginals…you can’t snuff us out with smallpox. Belief is a choice…disbelief is not.

Second, WE KNOW THAT SCIENCE DOESN’T = MORALITY…Science is neutral on the matter. It is cold and unforgiving. It provides knowledge and understanding. Knowledge is power…and power needs to be used responsibly. What you do with that knowledge is up to you, but ignoring knowledge is done at your own peril.

As requested by several posters, I would invite you to stop wasting your time with tit-for-tat argumentative posts and perhaps contemplate answering some of the questions that were addressed to you earlier when you were posing as an inquisitive person…rather than be evasive.

Do share with us all where Science teaches you morals and where our societies like here in Canada have not based their moral laws on their religious beliefs.

Its obvious you all take things to absurd extremes with comments like stoning for working on Sunday. You need to take the dust off your Bible and read it before misquoting it. The bible doesn’t say to stone someone for working on Sunday.

Your only responding to me with the same overblown fanaticism you accuse supposed religious fanatics of in this campaign. You’ve simply replaced a creator God with a thinking man’s god of Science and are now trying to push that point at the expenses of civility and respect.

Your whole campaign is to intimidate, not educate.

Only if someones speaks like you will he be considered by you thinking man following logic. Otherwise he’s ridiculed and called all sorts of names.

Science will not make you better men as you yourselves have shown.

I don’t think Mike is a troll (maybe by accident…overload) sometimes he seems to respond to things and actually seek knowledge…

“I know science hasn’t made Richard a better simply by his words. No assumptions, just read his words they speak of what’s in his mind.”

If you do not know what was in his mind or what his words where before, there is no comparison. Therefore it is an assumption to say it hasn’t made him a better man.

You obviously know this?

So your words where meant to slander Richards belief and therefore you would only have to look in the mirror to find “a poor man puffed up by what he thinks is rich knowledge.”

All this would lead me to believe, the whole objective of your campaign is to prove others wrong in light of your apparent lack of proof.

Regards Todd

I never said the “faithless” have no morality. I said that your science can’t teach you morals. Morals are not determined by science in a laboratory or with mathematical equations. They are conventions of our society founded on religious beliefs.

Unfortunately you offer no viable or legitimate alternative with your science. The whole objective of this atheist bus campaign is to prove others wrong in light of your apparent scientific proof.

As for you being a living proof that a god is not necessary for one to be “good” your words actually speak the contrary.